Understanding the seven trumpets (Revelation 8 and 9)

We are going to have a look at the Trumpets of Revelation 8 and 9. Before we deal with the chapters in Revelation, we want to see what the Bible connects with an understanding of the trumpets. We are going to go through each of these Bible passages and see what trumpets are connected with:

Assembly and Alarm: Numbers 10:1–10—

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.
3 And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee.
5 When ye blow an alarm, then the camps that lie on the east parts shall go forward.
6 When ye blow an alarm the second time, then the camps that lie on the south side shall take their journey: they shall blow an alarm for their journeys.
7 But when the congregation is to be gathered together, ye shall blow, but ye shall not sound an alarm.
8 And the sons of Aaron, the priests, shall blow with the trumpets; and they shall be to you for an ordinance for ever throughout your generations.
9 And if ye go to war in your land against the enemy that oppresseth you, then ye shall blow an alarm with the trumpets; and ye shall be remembered before the LORD your God, and ye shall be saved from your enemies.
10 Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God.
The first things we want to see is that the Trumpets are connected with an assembly and an alarm; the calling of a sacred assembly and an alarm.
Holy Convocation: Leviticus 23:24–25—
24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
25 Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
So first the Trumpets are connected with the calling of a sacred assembly; the calling of an alarm; and now calling a holy convocation.
Deliverance: Leviticus 25:9–13—
9 Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.
10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
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11 A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed.
12 For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.
13 In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession.
So the blowing of the trumpet was a sign of deliverance. So the Trumpets are connected with the calling of a sacred assembly; an alarm; and a holy convocation, and here, deliverance.
One of the things we read in Leviticus was that when a trumpet was blown, the people were to make an offering by fire unto the Lord. Now when you think of making an offering by fire unto the Lord, that sacrifice consumes—it does not increase—does it? We are going to see something very clearly; we believe that we are in the time of the Third Woe. We believe that we are really in the time of the Seventh Trumpet. We believe that the Millerite History is being repeated to the very letter. We are in the time when we should be making a sacrifice unto the Lord, not increasing, but consuming our goods for the work—Amen?

A Day of Wrath and Distress: Zephaniah 1:14–18

1:14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.
17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
Brethren, the Trumpet is connected with the day of wrath and distress; troubling of the nations. Now with this background, let’s build on the Trumpets. Now there is one more thing that we need to understand that is connected to the Trumpets and we’ll take this from William Miller. Trumpets also represent the downfall of an Empire, the bringing the end of an Empire.

The Downfall of an Empire

“In prophetical scripture, the sounding of trumpets is always used to denote the downfall of some empire, nation, or place, or some dreadful battle, which may decide the fate of empires, nations, or places. . . .
“The last three trumpets will claim our attention in his discourse; the first four having their accomplishment under Rome Pagan; to the last three under Rome Papal. These three trumpets and three woes are a description of the judgments that God has sent and will send on this Papal beast, the abomination of the whole earth.” William
Miller’s Works, volume 2, page 115–116.

The blowing of the trumpets represents the downfall of an Empire. Now in the book of Revelation chapter 8, we are going to look at the Pioneer position of the Trumpets as found on the bottom right hand corner of the 1843 and 1850 chart, representing the First, Second and Third Woes. We can’t have the Third woe without the Second, or the Second without the First and you can’t have those Trumpets without the first four. We are going to look at the Pioneer position in the Bible and in History and walk through the history of these trumpets.
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One thing about the Trumpets for those who have never studied the Trumpets, as we read through the Trumpets themselves, there is always reference to a third of men, or a third part of something being hurt or destroyed. We need to have an understanding why the Bible is saying that. We also need to understand that Revelation 8 and 9 goes together with Daniel 2 and 7.
We know in Daniel 2, Pagan Rome is represented by the legs of Iron and Pagan Rome split into East and West. In Daniel 7, we know that the Ten Horns on Pagan Rome’s Beast represents how Pagan Rome split into Ten. How did that happen? Why did Pagan Rome split into East and West? Why did it disintegrate into Ten? This is the Story of the Trumpets.
We know that in the year 330 AD, Constantine moved from the city of Rome to Constantinople —so dividing the Empire into East and West. The reason that Constantine split the Empire into Two was because there were attacks from the Barbarians and he thought that by splitting the Empire into two it would strengthen the Kingdom, but it brought its demise.
Also Pagan Rome not only split into East and West, but it also split into three.
“The Roman Empire, after Constantine, was divided into three parts; and hence the frequent remark, "a third part of men," etc., in allusion to the third part of the empire which was under the scourge. This division of the Roman kingdom was made at the death of Constantine, among his three sons, Constantius, Constantine II, and Constans. Constantius possessed the East, and fixed his residence at Constantinople, the metropolis of the empire. Constantine the Second held Britain, Gaul, and Spain. Constans held Illyricum, Africa, and Italy.” Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation, 479.
So his three sons received part of the Empire two of his sons had parts of the West and one had the part of the East. So as we go through the Bible it says a third part was destroyed, it is referring to either a part of the West or a part of the East.
So let’s go through the Bible and turn to Revelation 8:6, 7; “And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.”
We need to understand the first four Trumpets bring the demise of the Western Pagan Roman Empire. The first was Alaric of the Goths.

The First Trumpet—Goths
Alaric—395
“The first sore and heavy judgment which fell on Western Rome in its downward course, was the war with the Goths under Alaric, who opened the way for later inroads. The death of Theodosius, the Roman emperor, occurred in January, 395, and before the end of the winter the Goths under Alaric were in arms against the empire.” Uriah Smith, Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation, 478.
Historically, Alaric was the first of the trumpets the Lord used to bring down the Western Roman Empire. One thing to note here is the Bible says that under Alaric, the Earth was smitten.
Under the Second Trumpet we have Genseric; Revelation 8:8, 9: “And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.”
The Bible denotes that this Trumpet is represented as a great mountain burning with fire. The First Trumpet, Alaric, was as hail mingled with blood and the hail denoted where he came from; he came from the North, the cold regions; whereas the Second Trumpet, which are the Vandals under Genseric, came from Northern Africa, a hot region—a mountain burning with fire.
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We have a quotation here from Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation which gives you the Pioneer understanding of the history behind this Trumpet.

The Second Trumpet—Vandals
Genseric—428–468
“If the sounding of the first four trumpets relates to four remarkable events which contributed to the downfall of the Roman Empire, and the first trumpet refers to the ravages of the Goths under Alaric, in this we naturally look for the next succeeding act of invasion which shook the Roman power and conduced to its fall. The next great invasion was that of ‘the terrible Genseric,’ at the head of the Vandals. His career occurred during the years A.D. 428–468.” Uriah Smith, Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation, 481.
So Alaric, the First Trumpet came from the North the cold region and was represented as hail. That was in the year 395. The Second Trumpet was Genseric and the Vandals and they came from Northern Africa, a hot region; hence, a great mountain burning with fire. The mode of warfare of the Vandals was they battled on the sea—there were naval battles that took place and so the text says the third part of the sea was smitten.
Continuing in Revelation 8:10, 11: 10 “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.”
Historically the Third Trumpet was Attila and he brought with him the Huns. Attila the Hun was the Third Trumpet and the Bible says that he came from the fountains of waters—the fresh water. The First Trumpet destroyed the Earth—the Earth was smitten; the Second destroyed the Sea—the Sea is smitten; the Third Trumpet—the Fresh Waters, the fountains of waters. Attila comes from the Alps and attacked. Alaric came from the cold regions of the North; Genseric, the hot regions of North Africa, and Attila from the springs and fountains of waters—from the Alps.
The Earth smitten; the Sea smitten; then the Fresh waters were smitten. One thing about the Third trumpet is that Attila is called Wormwood—now what is Wormwood? It is a bitter herb. Why was Attila called Wormwood? Why were Attila’s actions more bitter than Alaric or Genseric? It wasn’t just warfare that Attila brought; he subjugated the government of Rome. Notice this statement from the Seer of Patmos by Haskell, pg. 155:
"The third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp." For nearly one hundred years previous to the final downfall of Rome, the Huns, one of the wildest of the Scythian tribes, had pressed upon the empire, spreading themselves from the Volga to the Danube. For a time they commanded the alternative of peace or war, with both the eastern and western divisions of the empire. In the days of AETIUS, a general of the West, sixty thousand Huns marched to the confines of Italy; but retreated when paid the sum which they cared to demand. Theodosius, the emperor of the East, bought peace by paying an annual tribute of three hundred and fifty pounds of gold, and bestowing the title of general upon the king of the Huns. There was still a senate at Rome, and it purchased peace of the Huns. This was a part of the "wormwood" which Rome was caused to drink. In 433 Attila and his brother became joint rulers of the barbarians, and in a treaty with the emperor, the Huns "dictated the conditions of peace; each condition was an insult on the majesty of the empire. Besides the freedom of a safe and plentiful market on the banks of the Danube, they required that the annual contribution should be augmented from three hundred and fifty pounds of gold to seven hundred pounds of gold; that a fine, or ransom, of eight pieces of gold should be paid for every Roman captive who had escaped from his
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barbarian master; that the emperor should renounce all treaties and engagements with the enemies of the Huns; and that all the fugitives who had taken refuge in the court, or provinces of Theodosius, should be delivered to the justice of their offended sovereign." Thus was the Roman Empire made to realize that its power was gone, and that the proud Romans were subject to the most cruel of all barbarians. This was "wormwood” indeed.” p. 155.
When we look at what Attila did, not only was he a terrible Barbarian, not only did he kill and destroy, but he put Rome under subjugation. This was Wormwood—Rome had to drink the bitter cup.

The Third Trumpet—Huns
Attila—429–451
“It is here premised that this trumpet has allusion to the desolating wars and furious invasions of Attila against the Roman power, which he carried on at the head of his hordes of Huns.” Uriah Smith, Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation, 486.
So the Earth was smitten, the Sea was smitten, the Fresh Waters were smitten, so what else was left? The Air was left. Notice what the Bible says in Revelation 8:12: “And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.”
The Bible shows very clear that they destroyed the Earth, they destroyed the Sea, destroyed the Fresh Waters and now the Heavens are smitten—that’s complete destruction. Western Rome was brought to its end and the Fourth Trumpet is Odoacer.

The Fourth Trumpet—Heruli
Odoacer—476
We understand that this trumpet symbolizes the career of Odoacer, the barbarian monarch who was so intimately connected with the downfall of Western Rome. The symbols sun, moon, and stars—for they are undoubtedly here used as symbols—evidently denote the great luminaries of the Roman government,—its emperors, senators, and consuls. Bishop Newton remarks that the last emperor of Western Rome was Romulus, who in derision was called Augustulus, or the ‘diminutive Augustus.’ Western Rome fell A.D. 476.” Uriah Smith, Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation, 488.
In 476 Odoacer sat upon the Emperor’s throne and the barbarians took control of Western Rome. In the year 476 Western Rome was destroyed, divided and split into the Ten Horns. When you look at Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation by Uriah Smith it gives you the understanding of what the Sun, Moon and Stars represented. It represented the Roman government, its Emperors, senators and consuls.
So the total government of Rome was not only subjugated as in the days of Attila, but brought to an end by Odoacer and divided into ten powers.
Out of those Ten Horns in Daniel 7, three were to be uprooted and the Little Horn was to arise. So when the Pagan Western Roman Empire disintegrated and split into ten, three horns were uprooted and the Papacy rises. So now we have the Papacy on the West but still Pagan Rome on the East. The first four Trumpets bring down Western Pagan Rome and we’ll see how the Fifth and Sixth Trumpets bring down Eastern Rome and the Papacy in the West.
Again we are just focusing on the History of the Trumpets. This history is something that is being denied as we speak today; our church today does not believe in the historical teachings of the Trumpets. That is a sad thing because that is the very foundation of Adventism.
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Revelation 8:13: “And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!”
In chapter 9 we go into the Woes:
“For an exposition of this trumpet, we shall again draw from the writings of Mr. Keith. This writer truthfully says: ‘There is scarcely so uniform an agreement among interpreters concerning any other part of the Apocalypse as respecting the application of the fifth and sixth trumpets, or the first and second woes, to the Saracens and Turks.’ It is so obvious that it can scarcely be misunderstood. Instead of a verse or two designating each, the whole of the ninth chapter of the Revelation in equal portions, is occupied with a description of both.” Uriah Smith, Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation, 488.
Revelation 9:1 “And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 “And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. 6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.”
Now notice this:
7 “And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.”
Again remember the constant reference that these trumpets are represented as horses prepared for battle—war horses—angry horses.
10 “And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. 12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.”
There is much history in these Woes, let’s start with verse 1: “And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.”

The Fifth Trumpet—Saracens
The First Woe: Arabic Islam
Mohammed—628: the battle of Nineveh
The pioneers correctly understood that the first Woe is Arabic Islam. And the Star who fell from heaven and was represented as the ‘he’ who received the Key of the Bottomless Pit, was Mohamed.
The ‘Key’ of the Bottomless Pit was the Battle of Nineveh in the year 628. It was a battle between the East and the West; a battle between Rome and Persia. Rome and Persia were both too powerful for the Mohametans to overcome. Without getting into too much detail in the story of this battle, Mohamed waited until there was a war between Rome and Persia.
Rome made the very perilous journey, after being subjugated by Persia. It agreed to the demands of Persia in order to buy time. So Rome bought time and took this very perilous journey around the
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Black Sea into the very back-yard of Persia and struck. The Persian army was destroyed, but it didn’t help Rome, because the Roman army was so depleted that this was the ‘key’—the battle that unlocked Mohametism upon the earth. Rome’s armies were destroyed; Persia’s armies were destroyed; nothing was in the way now of Islam—this was the ‘Key’, the Battle of Nineveh.
This was a battle of the East against the West; remember to mark that point.
The Bible says in Revelation 9:2 that “he opened the Bottomless Pit and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.”
The Pioneers understood correctly this smoke to be the religion of Islam. It covered the air and the sun—a representation of the Holy Spirit and of Christ—the true Gospel. So it eclipsed the sun and the air by reason of the smoke. The Bible tells us this Saracen or Islamic army was given the power to hurt for five month, which in Bible prophecy comes to 150 years.
This began on July 27, 1299 from the time that the Bible tells us they ‘had a king over them’.
Othman—July 27, 1299: invasion of Nicomedia
As you move through the first 12 verses of Revelation 9 you have the time of Mohamed; Mohamed dies and Abu Becker takes over. He was the one who gave the command found in verse 4, He told his armies to go and destroy those with shaven heads but to leave alone the ones who kept to themselves in the valleys and rocks and those were the Waldenses, the Sabbath keepers, since they had the Seal of God.
So it moves from Mohamed, to Abu Becker, and then to Othman, Commencing July 27, 1299, the one hundred and fifty years reach to 1449. During that whole period the Turks were engaged in an almost perpetual warfare with the Greek empire, but yet without conquering it. They seized upon and held several of the Greek provinces, but still Greek independence was maintained in Constantinople. But in 1449, the termination of the one hundred and fifty years, a change came, the history of which will be found under the succeeding trumpet.
Under the First Woe they were given power to hurt the Eastern Roman Empire; they were restrained—they could go so far but no further. Then we come to the Second Woe, the Sixth Trumpet.
Revelation 9:13 “And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
17 “And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. 18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 “For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.”
The Fifth Trumpet—Saracens; The First Woe: Arabic Islam
They are given a Time Prophecy of 150 years beginning with Othman—July 27, 1299: invasion of Nicomedia, which brings us to July 27, 1449.
We move onto the Sixth Trumpet, the Second Woe and it is still Islam, but now it is the Ottoman Empire—Turkish Islam. Islam is still the Woe power. It began its Time Prophecy of 391
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years and 15 days—in verse 15—and hour; a day; a month and a year, but this time they are loosed. They are restrained for the hundred and fifty years when they were only given power to hurt, but now they are loosed and given power to kill and to slay the third part of men. This time extends from July 27 1449 until August 11, 1840.
The four ‘angels’ which were loosed were the four principle sultans of Turkish Islam situated at Aleppo, Iconium, Damascus, and Bagdad. Islam was loose on the earth and they were given power to kill and under the Second Woe, Constantinople in the East comes down.
In verse 18 we see the way it came down; 18 “By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.” The fire, smoke and brimstone constitute gunpowder and they used explosives to bring down Constantinople, which in 1453 comes to an end.
But the sixth trumpet is not finished; the East has been taken care of but we have the power which arose in the West—the Papacy. The Papacy needs to be dealt with.
Revelation 9:21 “Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.” This brings us to the end of the 391 years and 15 days and picks up the story in Revelation 10:1:
“And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:”
This was the empowerment of the message of the Millerites on August 11, 1840. The Angel that came down with the ‘Little Book’ of Daniel open in His hand was Jesus Christ. This history of Revelation 10, the Seven Thunders, we have seen repeats to the very letter but still there is no reference to the end of the Sixth Trumpet.
As you go into Chapter 11 we see the history of the French Revolution and it is out of this history that we see the Little Horn power of Daniel 8 is brought down with the deadly wound. This is still under the time of the Sixth Trumpet.

The Sixth Trumpet—Turks & France
The Second Woe: Islam & Atheism
Napoleon—1798
In verse 14 of Revelation 11 we have the end of the Second Woe. “The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.”
So the Fifth Trumpet that brings the First Woe is Arabic Islam. It’s given power to hurt.
The Sixth Trumpet, the Second Woe brings the power to kill and slay the third part of men. This was not only Turkish Islam but this was Atheism as well. The time period was July 27, 1449-August 11, 1840. The power of Atheism brought down the Little Horn on the West.
Bible Prophecy tells us that this Little Horn power would have a resurrection; hence God reserves one more Trumpet, the Seventh Trumpet.
One thing we want to identify is that the Woes play a triple application in Bible Prophecy. In the Woes, the Fifth and Sixth Trumpets there are two lines represented there, two prophetic teachings. Notice Revelation 9:4: “And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.”
In the First Woe, the Fifth Trumpet, there is a sealing time that is represented there.
Then we stop in Revelation 10 and this is something we have to understand about the Trumpets and this is something that some of the pioneers understood and that was a principle brought to view in chapter 8:13. “And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud
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voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!”
So the last three Trumpets, the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Trumpets, the 1st, 2nd and 3rd
When we come to chapter 10, there was an understanding of the Millerites that when we come to August 11, 1840, the Sixth Trumpet ceased. But we have a prophetic understanding that they did not have. There is a history of 1840-1844 that must repeat. If we don’t have the history of 1840-1844 within the Sixth Trumpet, that history will not repeat under the time period of the seventh Trumpet. The Sixth Trumpet continued to sound, but the Woe ceased August 11, 1840. Woe, by reason of their sounding they bring with them the Woe—it’s a cause and effect. The Trumpet sounds and then a Woe comes; in a sense it is making a break between the Trumpets and the Woes even though they are connected. The Trumpet sounds, the Woe comes by reason of the sounding of the Trumpet.
We want to notice this excerpt from the vision of William Foy:

EXCERPT FROM WILLIAM FOY’S SECOND VISION ON FEBRUARY 4, 1842

“Near the place through which we passed I beheld a mighty angel clothed in pure white raiment, having a crown of brightness on his head. He appeared to be gazing through the bar, and his eyes like lamps of fire, were fixed with steadfastness upon the earth. He stood with his right foot placed before him, as though walking; and his object appeared to be, to reach the earth. But three steps remained for him to take. Against his breast, and across his left hand, was as it were, a trumpet of pure silver; and a great and terrible voice came from the midst of the boundless place, saying, ‘The sixth angel hath not yet done sounding.’”
The Sixth angel had not finished sounding and it was the understanding that on August 11, 1840 the Sixth Angel was done, but the vision from heaven said the Sixth angel had not yet finished sounding. The Sixth Trumpet ceased when the Seventh Trumpet began on October 22, 1844.
The history from August 11, 1840-October 22, 1844, it was that particular piece of history that the pioneers did not understand, and included there prophetically was the Seven Thunders and it was sealed to them—they had no understanding of what was transpiring there because they were living it as it was going forward in time.
This crucial piece of history we’ve seen represented by the foundations of many generations, the great prophetic movements of prophecy, this was a Sealing Time.

A Sealing Time—1840 through 1844

It was based upon the increase of light that came to them. It was a sealing time and the wise virgins and the foolish virgins were being sealed. Either they were sealed in Christ or sealed out of Christ. This was under the Sixth Trumpet.
So under the Fifth Trumpet you have a sealing time represented; under the Sixth Trumpet you have a sealing time represented; therefore when we do the Triple Application of Prophecy—and to make it simple think of it this way, 1+2=3—the first history plus the second history equals the third history.
There’s a sealing time in the First Woe; there’s a sealing time in the Second Woe; so there is a sealing time in the Third Woe.

The Empowerment of the Message of the Hour

“The termination of the hour, day, month and year of the sixth angel marks the conclusion of the second woe, August 11, 1840. Revelation 9:15.
(We know that on August 11, 1840, the message of the Millerites, the movement was empowered. It was a message from the Woes that empowered the movement.)
“At the close of the sixth angel’s voice a mighty angel descends from heaven to herald the sounding of the seventh trumpet. He has a little book open in his hand; and he places his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, and cries with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth. The seven
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thunders utter their voices, but John is forbidden to write what they utter. The angel, having made proclamation to the inhabitants of the earth, lifts his hand to heaven, and swears that time shall be no longer, but that in the days of the beginning of the seventh angel’s voice the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Revelation10:1–7. J. N. Andrews, The Judgment, its Events and Their Order, 56.

WOE MESSAGE EMPOWERS THE MILLERITES

“In the year 1840 another remarkable fulfillment of prophecy excited widespread interest. Two years before, Josiah Litch, one of the leading ministers preaching the second advent, published an exposition of Revelation 9, predicting the fall of the Ottoman Empire. . . .
“At the very time specified, Turkey, through her ambassadors, accepted the protection of the allied powers of Europe, and thus placed herself under the control of Christian nations. The event exactly fulfilled the prediction. When it became known, multitudes were convinced of the correctness of the principles of prophetic interpretation adopted by Miller and his associates, and a wonderful impetus was given to the advent movement. Men of learning and position united with Miller, both in preaching and in publishing his views, and from 1840 to 1844 the work rapidly extended.” The Great Controversy, 332–335.
So the Advent Movement was empowered by the message from the Woes. So under a triple application of prophecy, when the Third Woe time period we should see an empowerment of the movement based on an understanding of the Woes. There is a sealing time represented and an empowerment represented.

To the Very Letter
“I am often referred to the parable of the ten virgins, five of whom were wise, and five foolish. This parable has been and will be fulfilled to the very letter.” Review and Herald, August 19, 1890.
This history—fulfilled to the very letter. If there was a sealing, and empowerment at that time, it will be repeated to the very letter in our day.
That process began in September 11, 2001.
Now we will go through the Triple Application of Prophecy; remember that the history of the first, plus the history of the second, equals the history of the third.
Interestingly enough, Islam has an understanding of the Woes, but they call them the Great Jihads. They have the First Jihad, the Second Jihad, and the Third, and the Third Jihad is the final war in their understanding. The First Jihad was the same time as the first Biblical Woe.
The First Woe: First Great Jihad
Islam: Arabia—Mohamed
THE KEY: Empowered after war between East and West: Daniel 11:40. (This was repeated in our day as the war between East and West—USSR and the USA and that was the KEY that unlocked Islam, and in 2001 Islam struck.)
Mode of warfare: strike suddenly and unexpectedly
Focus of warfare: the armies of Rome
Directed by their tails:
The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail. Isaiah 9:15. Islam is directed by their false prophets, their Imams, the ones who give the teachings of Islam.
Providential force that tormented (HURTS) the armies of Rome
The Fifth Trumpet: Hurt not those who have the seal of God. We see a sealing time represented.
This is the First Woe—the First Great Jihad.
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History
From Mohamed to July 27, 1299 and then until July 27, 1449
The Second Woe: Second Great Jihad
Islam: Turkey—Othman
Mode of warfare: strike suddenly and unexpectedly with explosives. Gunpowder is invented and they use explosives to bring down the armies they are fighting.
Focus of warfare: the armies of Rome
Directed by their heads and tails:
The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail. Isaiah 9:15.
Providential force that brought down (KILLS) Imperial (pagan) Rome. First they hurt the armies of Rome, then the restraint was let loose and they were given power to kill.
The Sixth Trumpet: 1840 through 1844. This was a sealing time again.
History
From July 27, 1449 until August 11, 1840 and then through October 22, 1844
The First History plus the Second History equals the Third History.

The Third Woe: Third Great Jihad

September 11, 2001, whether we want to understand that or not, Islam understands it and on that date began the Third and Final Jihad. Read more about the third great Jihad from independent source here
Islam: Worldwide—Bin Laden
Mode of warfare: strike suddenly and unexpectedly with explosives
Focus of warfare: the armies of Rome. The United States of America—who came together with the Harlot Woman to bring down the USSR by means of our horses and chariots—our military, and our economic strength and thus it took the role of the armies of Rome.
Directed by their heads and tails
Providential force that torments (FIRST HURTS) the army of Rome and then brings down (KILLS) modern Rome: the dragon, the beast and the false prophet.
The Seventh Trumpet; The Investigative Judgment

History
From October 22, 1844 until September 11, 2001 until Michael stands up
Revelation 13:11 “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.”
Who is this beast? It is United States of America. When it rose to power in its infancy, those two powers represented its two powers of church and state being separate, Republicanism and Protestantism. But when it begins to speak as a Dragon, those powers change to military might and economic power.
Revelation 13:15 “And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.” Military Power—Force.
16 “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Economic Power.
Military and economic power. And it just so happens that on September 11, 2001, the economic power was hit—the World Trade Center; and the military power of United States was struck—the
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Pentagon. Why didn’t the third plane hit? It would have destroyed the pattern. God is the One Who is orchestrating events.
We have read the statement that the Holy Spirit is not only involved in the giving of the prophecy but in the events portrayed. God is at work, but Adventism continues to sleep on.
On September 11, 2001 the Third Woe begins, the Third Great Jihad. First they were given power to hurt. On September 11, 2001 the world was hurt, the United States was hurt. But when God lets them do what they are supposed to do prophetically, not only will they hurt, but they will slay and kill and they will destroy.
The Bible says by the providence of God, that won’t transpire until the God’s people are sealed in their foreheads.
The Seventh Trumpet brings with it the Investigative Judgment. October 22, 1844 when the Seventh Trumpet began to sound, Christ went from the Holy to the Most Holy Place. We are living in a sealing time. On September 11, 2001, God empowered the Advent Movement again by a Woe. If we don’t understand that, we will never, ever be gathered. We will never be considered God’s Remnant People who will give the final cry.
We have been given great light, and may God help us to improve upon that light or we will be the first to be left by the Holy Spirit. We need to understand that God is the same yesterday, today and always, and He always works the same. The Patterns in the Bible are for us that we might see the times in which we are living and awake from our lethargy. We are now living in the time of the judgment of the living and our sins must be sent before hand to the judgment that they may be blotted out.

source:The Trumpets: Jamal Sankey
all of the Above could be Further verified and by Uriah Smith's Book Daniel and Revelation.


My other blog entries on the Biblical significance of The fall of the twin towers 911 click here
See recent video here of Islam understanding who the people of the Book are and they should not be hurt or converted.
or the 1944 version called Treasures of Life (the Bible story for All People). The PDF Version could be found here

The Life and Persecutions of John Wickliffe ( History testiffy of the Bible Truth)

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

An Account of the Life and Persecutions of John Wickliffe

It will not be inappropriate to devote a few pages of this work to a brief detail of the lives of some of those men who first stepped forward, regardless of the bigoted power which opposed all reformation, to stem the time of papal corruption, and to seal the pure doctrines of the Gospel with their blood. Among these, Great Britain has the honor of taking the lead, and first maintaining that freedom in religious controversy which astonished Europe, and demonstrated that political and religious liberty are equally the growth of that favored island. Among the earliest of these eminent persons was

John Wickliffe

This celebrated reformer, denominated the "Morning Star of the Reformation," was born about the year 1324, in the reign of Edward II. Of his extraction we have no certain account. His parents designing him for the Church, sent him to Queen's College, Oxford, about that period founded by Robert Eaglesfield, confessor to Queen Philippi. But not meeting with the advantages for study in that newly established house which he expected, he removed to Merton College, which was then esteemed one of the most learned societies in Europe.

The first thing which drew him into public notice, was his defence of the university against the begging friars, who about this time, from their settlement in Oxford in 1230, had been troublesome neighbors to the university. Feuds were continually fomented; the friars appealing to the pope, the scholars to the civil power; and sometimes one party, and sometimes, the other, prevailed. The friars became very fond of a notion that Christ was a common beggar; that his disciples were beggars also; and that begging was of Gospel institution. This doctrine they urged from the pulpit and wherever they had access.

Wickliffe had long held these religious friars in contempt for the laziness of their lives, and had now a fair opportunity of exposing them. He published a treatise against able beggary, in which he lashed the friars, and proved that they were not only a reproach to religion, but also to human society. The university began to consider him one of their first champions, and he was soon promoted to the mastership of Baliol College.

About this time, Archbishop Islip founded Canterbury Hall, in Oxford, where he established a warden and eleven scholars. To this wardenship Wickliffe was elected by the archbishop, but upon his demise, he was displaced by his successor, Stephen Langham, bishop of Ely. As there was a degree of flagrant injustice in the affair, Wickliffe appealed to the pope, who subsequently gave it against him from the following cause: Edward III, then king of England, had withdrawn the tribune, which from the time of King John had been paid to the pope. The pope menaced; Edward called a parliament. The parliament resolved that King John had done an illegal thing, and given up the rights of the nation, and advised the king not to submit, whatever consequences might follow.

The clergy now began to write in favor of the pope, and a learned monk published a spirited and plausible treatise, which had many advocates. Wickliffe, irritated at seeing so bad a cause so well defended, opposed the monk, and did it in so masterly a way that he was considered no longer as unanswerable. His suit at Rome was immediately determined against him; and nobody doubted but his opposition to the pope, at so critical a period, was the true cause of his being non-suited at Rome.

Wickliffe was afterward elected to the chair of the divinity professor: and now fully convinced of the errors of the Romish Church, and the vileness of its monastic agents, he determined to expose them. In public lectures he lashed their vices and opposed their follies. He unfolded a variety of abuses covered by the darkness of superstition. At first he began to loosen the prejudices of the vulgar, and proceeded by slow advances; with the metaphysical disquisitions of the age, he mingled opinions in divinity apparently novel. The usurpations of the court of Rome was a favorite topic. On these he expatiated with all the keenness of argument, joined to logical reasoning. This soon procured him the clamor of the clergy, who, with the archbishop of Canterbury, deprived him of his office.

At this time the administration of affairs was in the hands of the duke of Lancaster, well known by the name of John of Gaunt. This prince had very free notions of religion, and was at enmity with the clergy. The exactions of the court of Rome having become very burdensome, he determined to send the bishop of Bangor and Wickliffe to remonstrate against these abuses, and it was agreed that the pope should no longer dispose of any benefices belonging to the Church of England. In this embassy, Wickliffe's observant mind penetrated into the constitution and policy of Rome, and he returned more strongly than ever determined to expose its avarice and ambition.

Having recovered his former situation, he inveighed, in his lectures, against the pope--his usurpation--his infallibility--his pride--his avarice-- and his tyranny. He was the first who termed the pope Antichrist. From the pope, he would turn to the pomp, the luxury, and trappings of the bishops, and compared them with the simplicity of primitive bishops. Their superstitions and deceptions were topics that he urged with energy of mind and logical precision.

From the patronage of the duke of Lancaster, Wickliffe received a good benefice; but he was no sooner settled in his parish, than his enemies and the bishops began to persecute him with renewed vigor. The duke of Lancaster was his friend in this persecution, and by his presence and that of Lord Percy, earl marshal of England, he so overawed the trial, that the whole ended in disorder.

After the death of Edward III his grandson Richard II succeeded, in the eleventh year of his age. The duke of Lancaster not obtaining to be the sole regent, as he expected, his power began to decline, and the enemies of Wickliffe, taking advantage of the circumstance, renewed their articles of accusation against him. Five bulls were despatched in consequence by the pope to the king and certain bishops, but the regency and the people manifested a spirit of contempt at the haughty proceedings of the pontiff, and the former at that time wanting money to oppose an expected invasion of the French, proposed to apply a large sum, collected for the use of the pope, to that purpose. The question was submitted to the decision of Wickliffe. The bishops, however, supported by the papal authority, insisted upon bringing Wickliffe to trial, and he was actually undergoing examination at Lambeth, when, from the riotous behavior of the populace without, and awed by the command of Sir Lewis Clifford, a gentleman of the court, that they should not proceed to any definitive sentence, they terminated the whole affair in a prohibition to Wickliffe, not to preach those doctrines which were obnoxious to the pope; but this was laughed at by our reformer, who, going about barefoot, and in a long frieze gown, preached more vehemently than before.

In the year 1378, a contest arose between two popes, Urban VI and Clement VII which was the lawful pope, and true vicegerent of God. This was a favorable period for the exertion of Wicliffe's talents: he soon produced a tract against popery, which was eagerly read by all sorts of people.

About the end of the year, Wickliffe was seized with a violent disorder, which it was feared might prove fatal. The begging friars, accompanied by four of the most eminent citizens of Oxford, gained admittance to his bed chamber, and begged of him to retract, for his soul's sake, the unjust things he had asserted of their order. Wickliffe, surprised at the solemn message, raised himself in his bed, and with a stern countenance replied, "I shall not die, but live to declare the evil deeds of the friars."

When Wickliffe recovered, he set about a most important work, the translation of the Bible into English. Before this work appeared, he published a tract, wherein he showed the necessity of it. The zeal of the bishops to suppress the Scriptures greatly promoted its sale, and they who were not able to purchase copies, procured transcripts of particular Gospels or Epistles. Afterward, when Lollardy increased, and the flames kindled, it was a common practice to fasten about the neck of the condemned heretic such of these scraps of Scripture as were found in his possession, which generally shared his fate.

Immediately after this transaction, Wickliffe ventured a step further, and affected the doctrine of transubstantiation. This strange opinion was invented by Paschade Radbert, and asserted with amazing boldness. Wickliffe, in his lecture before the University of Oxford, 1381, attacked this doctrine, and published a treatise on the subject. Dr. Barton, at this time vice-chancellor of Oxford, calling together the heads of the university, condemned Wickliffe's doctrines as heretical, and threatened their author with excommunication. Wickliffe could now derive no support from the duke of Lancaster, and being cited to appear before his former adversary, William Courteney, now made archbishop of Canterbury, he sheltered himself under the plea, that, as a member of the university, he was exempt from episcopal jurisdiction. This plea was admitted, as the university were determined to support their member.

The court met at the appointed time, determined, at least to sit in judgment upon his opinions, and some they condemned as erroneous, others as heretical. The publication on this subject was immediately answered by Wickliffe, who had become a subject of the archbishop's determined malice. The king, solicited by the archbishop, granted a license to imprison the teacher of heresy, but the commons made the king revoke this act as illegal. The primate, however, obtained letters from the king, directing the head of the University of Oxford to search for all heresies and books published by Wickliffe; in consequence of which order, the university became a scene of tumult. Wickliffe is supposed to have retired from the storm, into an obscure part of the kingdom. The seeds, however, were scattered, and Wickliffe's opinions were so prevalent that it was said if you met two persons upon the road, you might be sure that one was a Lollard. At this period, the disputes between the two popes continued. Urban published a bull, in which he earnestly called upon all who had any regard for religion, to exert themselves in its cause; and to take up arms against Clement and his adherents in defence of the holy see.

A war, in which the name of religion was so vilely prostituted, roused Wickliffe's inclination, even in his declining years. He took up his pen once more, and wrote against it with the greatest acrimony. He expostulated with the pope in a very free manner, and asks him boldly: 'How he durst make the token of Christ on the cross (which is the token of peace, mercy and charity) a banner to lead us to slay Christian men, for the love of two false priests, and to oppress Christiandom worse than Christ and his apostles were oppressed by the Jews? 'When,' said he, 'will the proud priest of Rome grant indulgences to mankind to live in peace and charity, as he now does to fight and slay one another?'

This severe piece drew upon him the resentment of Urban, and was likely to have involved him in greater troubles than he had before experienced, but providentially he was delivered out of their hands. He was struck with the palsy, and though he lived some time, yet it was in such a way that his enemies considered him as a person below their resentment.

Wickliffe returning within short space, either from his banishment, or from some other place where he was secretly kept, repaired to his parish of Lutterworth, where he was parson; and there, quietly departing this mortal life, slept in peace in the Lord, in the end of the year 1384, upon Silvester's day. It appeared that he was well aged before he departed, "and that the same thing pleased him in his old age, which did please him being young."

Wickliffe had some cause to give them thanks, that they would at least spare him until he was dead, and also give him so long respite after his death, forty-one years to rest in his sepulchre before they ungraved him, and turned him from earth to ashes; which ashes they also took and threw into the river. And so was he resolved into three elements, earth, fire, and water, thinking thereby utterly to extinguish and abolish both the name and doctrine of Wickliffe forever. Not much unlike the example of the old Pharisees and sepulchre knights, who, when they had brought the Lord unto the grave, thought to make him sure never to rise again. But these and all others must know that, as there is no counsel against the Lord, so there is no keeping down of verity, but it will spring up and come out of dust and ashes, as appeared right well in this man; for though they dug up his body, burned his bones, and drowned his ashes, yet the Word of God and the truth of his doctrine, with the fruit and success thereof, they could not burn.

Stepping out in faith

This is a copy of an email I sent to a friend a few adjustments were done. I know she would not mind me posting this because I realise others may need such encouragement.

Hey i was thinking today .. That the decision you made to move on is a good one .That move is a spiritually sound decision. It is one where God will not turn you down because you are disconnecting from a situation that can keep you from the kingdom..
It is a move of faith and the just shall live by faith. God is rewarder of those who diligently seek him . The text says:
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him : for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
You will find as you venture out in faith and you get pass this one that more test will come requiring greater faith. Note it is God leading you into a total faith relationship but he is doing it in gradual steps...Bit by Bit.. Test by test... This is the time you need to pray more than ever .. I am praying on this end.
Remember most people will think the move is a ridiculous one ie those who are not Spirit lead.

1Corinthians 2:14 But the natural (carnal) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Know this, God may also not work till you have put your foot in the Jordon River. He may not pull trough even till you are even wast deep, but stay firm on the goal. Be assured He will pull trough because the decision that you have made is one that leaves some stuff behind for a closer walk with Him. you have responded to a call to righteousness .Jesus could only be please with this move.

This scripture I heard repeatedly from my mother when she was alive.

Psalms 37:25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

Yes we grew up very poor. I thank God for that experience . It laid the foundations stone of my relationship with God; an immovable stone, one I couldn't shake even in my rebellious period.
You could do it, trust God, Step out in faith. When you start walking on the water don't take your eyes of Jesus. Remember the direction you are heading is towards Him . He will take care of you. He will see you through.


Take care and God bless
royalblood

Babylon is alive and well ( David Asscherick)

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History + The Holy Bible = Potent Witness (undeniable)

THE SABBATH IN EARLY HISTORY

1^st Century A.D.:

Jesus. "And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up for to read." Luke 4:16.

Jesus. "But pray ye that your flight be not in winter, neither on the Sabbath day." Matthew 24:20.

Paul. "And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures." Acts 17:2.

Paul and the Gentiles. "And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. And the next Sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the Word of God." Acts 13:42,44.

2^nd Century: Early Christians. "The primitive Christians had a great veneration for the Sabbath, and spent the day in devotion and sermons. And it is not to be doubted but they derived their practice from the Apostles themselves, as appears by several scriptures to that purpose." Dialogue on the Lord’s Day, 189. London: 1701. By Dr. T.H. Morer (Church of England).

3^rd and 4^th Centuries: Orient and Most of the World. "The ancient Christians were very careful in the observation of Saturday, or the seventh day . . . it is plain that all the Oriental churches, and the greatest part of the world, observed the Sabbath as a festival . . . Athanasius likewise tells us that they held religious assemblies on the Sabbath, not because they were infected with Judaism, but to worship Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath; Epiphanius says the same." Antiquities of the Christian Church, vol. 2, Book XX, chap. 3, section 166, 1137, 1138.

Council of Laodicea. "From the apostles’ time until the council of Laodicea, which was about the year 364, the holy observation of the Jews’ Sabbath continued, as may be proved out of man authors; yea, notwithstanding the decree of the council against it." Sunday a Sabbath, John Ley, 163. London: 1640.

5^th Century: Constantinople. "The people of Constantinople and almost everywhere, assemble together on the Sabbath, as well as on the first day of the week, which custom is never observed in Rome or at Alexandria." Socrates, Ecclesiastical History, Book 7, chap. 19.

6^th Century: Rome. "About 590, Pope Gregory, in a letter to the Roman people, denounced as the prophets of Antichrist those who maintained that work ought not be done on the seventh day." James T. Ringgold, The Law of Sunday, 267.

7^th Century: Scotland and Ireland. "It seems to have been customary in the Celtic churches of early times, in Ireland as well as Scotland, to keep Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath, as a day of rest from labour. They obeyed the fourth commandment literally upon the seventh day of the week." Professor James C. Moffat, D.D., Professor of Church History at Princeton, The Church in Scotland, 140.

8^th Century: India, China and Persia. "Widespread and enduring was the observance of the seventh-day Sabbath among the believers of the Church of the East and the St. Thomas Christians of India, who never were connected with Rome. It also was maintained among those bodies which broke off from Rome after the Council of Chalcedon namely, the Abysinians, the Jacobites, the Maronites, and the Armenians." Schaff¾ Herzog, The New Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, art. Nestorians; also Realencyclopadie fur Protestantische Theologie und Kirche, art. Nestorianer.

10^th Century: Church of the East, Kurdistan. "The Nestorians eat no pork and keep the Sabbath. They believe in neither auricular confession nor purgatory." Schaff¾ Herzog, The New Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, art. Nestorians.

11^th Century: Scotland. "They held that Saturday was properly the Sabbath on which they abstained from work." Celtic Scotland, col. 2, 350.

12^th Century: Wales. "There is much evidence that the Sabbath prevailed in Wales universally until A.D. 1115, when the first Roman bishop was seated at St. David’s. The Old Welsh Sabbath-keeping churches did not even then altogether bow the knee to Rome, but fled to their hiding places." Lewis, Seventh Day Baptist in Europe and America, vol. 1, 29.

13^th Century: Waldenses of France. "The inquisitors . . . [declare] that the sign of a Vaudois, deemed worthy of death, was that the followed Christ, and sought to obey the commandments of God." History of the Inquisition of the Middle Ages, H.C. Lea, vol. 1.

"And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ . . . Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." Revelation 12:17; 14:12.

15^th Century: Norway. "We are informed that some people in different districts of the kingdom, have adopted and observed Saturday-keeping. It is severely forbidden¾ in the holy church canon¾ one and all to observe days excepting those which the holy Pope, archbishop, or the bishops command. Saturday-keeping must under no circumstances be permitted hereafter further than the church canon commands. Therefore, we counsel all the friends of God throughout all Norway who want to be obedient towards the holy church to let this evil of Saturday-keeping alone; and the rest we forbid under penalty of severe church punishment to keep Saturday holy."" Catholic Provincial Council at Bergen, 1435. Dip. Noverg., 7, 397.

"He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law." Daniel 7:25

THE SABBATH IN LATER HISTORY

16^th Century: Council of Trent. "On the 18^th of January, 1563, the Council of Trent ruled that Tradition is greater than Scripture, after a powerful speech by the Archbishop of Reggio, in which he said that the fact that the Church had changed the Fourth Commandment clearly proved that Tradition was greater than the Scripture." H.J. Holtzman, Kanon und Tradition, 1859 edition, 263.

Jesus replied, "Why do you also transgress the commandments of God because of your tradition? . . . Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:3, 6-9

Holland and Germany. "Barbara of Thiers, who was executed in 1529, declared: ‘God has commanded us to rest on the seventh day.’" Martyrology of the Churches of Christ, commonly called Baptists, during the era of the Reformation, from the Dutch of T.J. Van Bright, London 1850, 1, 113, 114.

Russia. "The accused [Sabbath-keepers] were summoned; they openly acknowledged the new faith, and defended the same. The most eminent of them, the secretary of state, Kuritzyn, Ivan Maximo, Kassian, archimandrite of the jury Monastery of Novgorod, were condemned to death, and burned publicly in cages, at Moscow, December 27, 1503." (Council, Moscow, 1503). H. Sternberf, Geschichte der Juden (Leipzig, 1873), 1117, 1122.

Sweden. "This zeal for Saturday-keeping continued for a long time; even little things which might strengthen the practice for keeping Sunday were punished." Bishop Anjou, Svenska Kirkans Historia efter Motet I Upsala.

Europe. About the year 1520 many of these Sabbath-keepers found shelter on the estate of Lord Leonhardt of Liechtenstein, "as princes of Lichtenstein held to the observance of the true Sabbath." History of the Sabbath, J. N. Andrews, 649.

India. "The famous Jesuit, Francis Xavier, called for the Inquisition, which was set up in Goa, India, in 1560, to check the ‘Jewish wickedness’ (Sabbath-keeping)." Adeney, The Greek and Eastern Churches, 527, 528.

Abyssinia. "It is not therefore, in imitation of the Jews, but in obedience to Christ and His holy apostles, that we observe that day." (Abyssinian legate at court of Lisbon, 1534). Geddes’ Church History of Ethiopia, 87, 88.

17^th Century: England. "Here in England are about nine or ten churches that keep the Sabbath, besides many scattered disciples, who have been eminently preserved." Stennet’s letters, 1668 and 1670. Cox. Sab., 1, 268.

Dr. Peter Chamberlain. Dr. Peter Chamberlain was physician to King James and Queen Katherine. The inscription on the monument over his grave says Dr. Chamberlain was "a Christian, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, being baptised about the year 1648, and keeping the seventh day for the Sabbath above thirty-two years."

America. "Stephen Mumford, the first Sabbath-keeper in America came from London in 1644." History of the Seventh day Baptist General Conference by Jas. Bailey, 237, 238.

England. "It will surely be far safer to observe the seventh day, according to the express commandment of God, than on the authority of mere human conjecture to adopt the first." John Milton, Sab. Lit., 2, 46-54.

18^th Century: Romania. (1760). "Joseph II’s edict of tolerance did not apply to the Sabbatarians, some of whom again lost all their possessions." Jahrgang 2, 254.

Bohemia and Moravia. "The condition of the Sabbatarians [from 1635 to 1867] was dreadful. Their books and writings had to be delivered to the Karlsburg Consistory to become the spoil of flames." Adolf Dux, Aux Ungarn, 289-291, Leipzig, 1880.

America. Before Zinzendorf and the Moravians at Bethlehem thus began the observance of the Sabbath and prospered, there was a small body of German Sabbath-keepers in Pennsylvania. See Rupp’s History of Religious Denominations in the United States, 109-123.

19^th Century to present: America. The Seventh-day Adventist movement was formed in 1844.

China. "The Taipings, when asked why they observed the seventh day Sabbath, replied that it was, first, because the Bible taught it, and second, because their ancestors observed it as a day of worship." A Critical History of the Sabbath and the Sunday.

Sweden. "We will now endeavor to show that the sanctification of the Sabbath has its foundation and its origin in a law which God at creation itself established for the whole world, and as a consequence thereof is binding on all men in all ages." May 30, 1863, p. 169. Evangelisten (The Evangelist) Stockholm, May 30 to August 15, 1863, (organ of the Swedish Baptist Church).

We gratefully acknowledge J. F. Coltheart, who personally consulted old manuscripts and the original sources of many of these quotations in the libraries and museums of Europe, Constantinople and the East.

Royalblood : The Truth shall set many free.

The standard Be Ye Perfect ( No excuse for sin NONE)

I know that many may not have the technology or the privacy to listen to the above presentation.
so I am going to write as much as I can on the Topic of Being perfect or living without sin as presented in the audio.
http://www.adventtimes.com/audio/SeekingTheLostCampaign/SL07%20%20CD%2005%20THE%20STANDARD%20BE%20YE%20PERFECT.mp3The standard Be Ye Perfect.

What does the call to be Perfect means.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

If man had His way if the Bible was inspired by man that verse would be there.. We think it too hard. Many give up on the Christian walk because they think this command is too hard. God is asking us to be Just like Him.Would God ask us to do something that we cannot do ?
Its a battle.
Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

Have you been there ? I know its frustrating. I have been there too. We are all like Paul in Romans 7:24 saying Oh retched man that i am who will save me "
Only Jesus reached the standard
John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
Wasn't Jesus God ?but wasn't he human also..
Could it be that Jesus mastered the human flesh becuase he was God ?
Is perfection outside of Human reach is it a Godlike characteristic ?
Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
What does that text mean didn't he retain heredity,wasn't he expose to the same hereditary tendencies as we are.
When we make mistakes and we find excuses for our sinful ways .We say my father had this sin,my grandfather had this same problem evangelicals (those who don't protest any more) coined a new term they call it "Generational curses". No one is bound to the sins of for fathers.Christ can break any hereditary tendencies.

Jesus was made according to the flesh and we make excuses to say hereditary has taken control us that's why we sin.
We should take much effort to understand the nature of Christ because that is where the power is.
Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Jesus came as a substitute for man and overcame sin in sinful flesh.
If i can do it He said i can do ..I came I, saw I conquer Christ was the first to say that..
No excuse for sin NONE.

Man was made in the image and likeness of God.
Were Angels Created ? yes.
Were angels created in the image of God? No

Hebrews 2:5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honor, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

Note 1. The angels will not have dominion in the world to come. This passage is borrowed from psalms 8:5 ..the original Hebrew of lower than the (Angels) translates Elohiym( its correct I checked it out my self ). Thou has made man a little lower than God.
This is why the Devil hates us so much !
God places us above Angels and he is trying to get us back to that position.
The redeemed will be place above angels.

Read on 8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee
13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behooved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

The reason why people even in the church dont like to here that Jesus took on sinful flesh is because he overcame in the flesh that we have and beacaus he did it under sinful flesh we can do it too..They will even use Jesus as there excuse not to overcome sin.Why sin is sweat thats why.

8 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succor them that are tempted.
He understands what temptation is like .. The lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life Christ was tempted in all thses catogories.. He overcame where Adam lost the battles.Jesus knows what it is to be tempted and how to overcome in the flesh.

If you can prove from the Bible that Jesus used Divinity to overcome then his coming was in vain.The would of died for nothing.. But thank God He overcame in sinful flesh.

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

When we are confronted with temptation If we connect our will just like He connected withthe fathers will we will overcome any temptations.Overcoming the flesh is easy with Him in us.

WE make excuses some say we dont have to keep the law we are not under the law
Romans 6:1 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
We sin because we Let sin come in.

Sin knocks at the door you let sin in .but when Christ comes and knock we tell him no cu cant come in sin is in here. you and sin can mix and i prefer to have sin in here. you can come in when sin i allow sin to leave ..Lord you wait that's what we tell him

13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
you can have Dominion over sin ..

Genesis 4 :6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

If baptism is symbolic of dead, why would we go down to the watery grave and self still comes up alive.
Baptism is symbolic to what has already taken place .. we are dead to sin before baptism ..baptism cannot change us its showing the world we are dead to sin and we now live resurect ,we have a new life.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

The christian road is not laden with roses. But Jesus says i have overcome the world ..How He yeilded his self to God every step every turn every day every minuite.

It does matter the appetite. Sex,pride food, media it is self.. Give your self to God totally.
He kept self suppressed.. There is no excuse for sin.. It is not justifiable at all.
When we try to justify sin we have the mind of Satan.
Like Adam and Eve. She made me do it .

2 Timothy 4:6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Paul was confident.

1Cor 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye steadfast, unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.
If paul we can do it too ..We may have reservations in that Christ overcame but if paul can do it we can do it..
no fight no trial is in vain.be strong be immovable

2Cor 2:14 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savor of his knowledge by us in every place.

Christ can keep you from falling ALWAYS .THERE IS NO TEMPTATION THAT IS TOO MUCH FOR YOU HE CAN KEEP YOU ALWAYS

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

What does confident means you can take it to the bank .. He will finish what he has started the good work in you..IN every one of your life . Its up to you to let Him.
We have to cooperate with God .. If self ever takes control Jesus has to back off.. thats how he works when He takes control let Him work in you listen to Him.
We give too much credit to the Devil ,Satan is letting me do this and he is that .Forget Him.

Satan has to get permission to come trough Jesus to get to you.. Remember Job Read Job 1
Cant it joy when he comes at you .. its a opportunity for perfection .
While Satan is constantly seeking to blind their minds to the fact, let Christians never forget that they "wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places." [Ephesians 6:12(MARGIN).] The inspired warning is sounding down the centuries to our time: "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour." [1 Peter 5:8.] "Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may able to stand against the wiles of the devil." [Ephesians 6:11.]
From the days of Adam to our own time, our great enemy has been exercising his power to oppress and destroy. He is now preparing for his last campaign against the church. All who seek to follow Jesus will be brought into conflict with this relentless foe. The more nearly the Christian imitates the divine Pattern, the more surely will he make himself a mark for the attacks of Satan. All who are actively engaged in the cause of God, seeking to unveil the deceptions of the evil one and to present Christ before the people, will be able to join in the testimony of Paul, in which he speaks of serving the Lord with all humility of mind, with many tears and temptations.
Satan assailed Christ with his fiercest and most subtle temptations; but he was repulsed in every conflict. Those battles were fought in our behalf; those victories make it possible for us to conquer. Christ will give strength to all who seek it. No man without his own consent can be overcome by Satan. The tempter has no power to control the will or to force the soul to sin. He may distress, but he cannot contaminate. He can cause agony, but not defilement. The fact that Christ has conquered should inspire his followers with courage to fight manfully the battle against sin and Satan.
Great Controversy EG White

He can get on or nerves but the moment we give in we will fall.. choose not to fall.
The same way we choose to sin every day ,the same way we can choose to live sinless. Its a vote.. Satan cast in his vote ,Jesus Cast in His vote. Now you have the tie breaker. you have to choose.

2 peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God( His Word the Bible), and of Jesus our Lord,
3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

Its a round on the ladder verse 2-8 every one has its place if you mist one it affects the others

10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
Do this things and you will stop sinning .. stay on the platform.


trials of all types bugs us .. All of us have struggles.. Paul pray for his three times..we must pray more than ever (We don't bruise our knees enough some of us.. Jesus spent all night praying sometimes..
2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
many people think all kinds of things where the thorn in flesh.. inspired writing says it may be his eyesight from much investigation.. He was blind on the road remember .. never fully recovered.
Trials are there to develop character,God allow certain things in our life to shape us to mold us.
God has not turn His back ,but when self comes in play he allows trials for us to get over.
We have the assurance that He is right there with us every step of the way if we let Him in and lock the devil out.
The standard is high but Christ was victorious..
Its time to live triumphant over your sins.
Yes we can be victorious over sin.

The heart must be open

Why is it that men do not believe upon sufficient evidence?--Because they do not want to be convinced. They have no disposition to give up their own will for God's will. They are unwilling to acknowledge that they have cherished sinful unbelief in resisting the light that God has given them. They have been hunting for doubts, for pegs upon which to hang their unbelief. They have been ready to accept testimony which is weak and insufficient, testimony which God has not given them in his word, but which pleases them because it agrees with their ideas, and is in harmony with their disposition and will. These souls are in great peril. If they will bow their proud will, and put it on God's side of the question; if they will with humble, contrite hearts seek for the light, believing that there is light for them, then they will see light, because the eye is single to discern the light which comes from God. They will acknowledge the evidence of divine authority. Spiritual truths will shine forth from the divine page. But the heart must be open for the reception of light, for Satan is ever ready to obscure the precious truth which would make them wise unto salvation. If any do not receive it, it will forever remain a mystery of mysteries to them.
Review and Herald,December 23, 1890

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